Trail-Gear DOM Front Bumpers

[Chris Geiger]

When it comes to protecting your truck DOM steel is far stronger and dent resistant when compared to HREW tubing. That's why every Trail-Gear Rock Defense tube bumper is made entirely out of DOM tubing (1.75" X .120 wall). Each bumper is carefully built on our jigs right here in Fresno CA.

Rock Defense bumpers are built using our winch mounting plate and feature a front 2" receiver. Mounting holes are drilled for most 5000-9500 model low profile winches and smaller sized 9.0R Warn competition winches. Bumpers mount to the factory holes on the front of 1984-1995 Toyota Pickup's and 4Runners.

Notes: Turn signal mounting tabs are not included. Unpainted steel finish. If using a winch with an integrated solenoid, such as the Warn 9500, trimming of the front plastic grill will be necessary. Will not work with roller type fairlead, requires hawse type fairlead. Not intended for use with a body lift.

http://www.trail-gear.com/toy-bumper.html

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/rock-defense-bumper-600.jpg

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/frontbumper-600.jpg

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/0803-0003-600.jpg

[tanman2003]

Woo hoo! I will be ordering one shortly, what is the wait time? or do you have several of the model 1's in stock?

[YeloSub7]

YAY!!! So when are the Model #3's coming out?

[Chris Geiger]

Just a few more days!

[95toyota]

hey Chris,

Dont forget to put unfinished up there...

[Chris Geiger]

It says unfinished in the notes section.

[Chris Geiger]

Woo hoo! I will be ordering one shortly, what is the wait time? or do you have several of the model 1's in stock?

Model 1's are in stock.

[YeloSub7]

ah, no roller fairlead?? So basically we have to use a winch with synthetic rope?

[91Toyota4x4]

What do models 2 and 3 look like?

[Chris Geiger]

Looking at the top of the page, the first and last photos are the model 3 bumpers. The second photo is a model 1. The model 2 looks exactly like the model one but has slightly different brackets.

[Chris Geiger]

ah, no roller fairlead?? So basically we have to use a winch with synthetic rope?

Roller faileads are gay. First time you hit a rock with the failead, the rollers fall out on the trail. Just useless on a serious rig.

If you don't want to upgrade your winch cable, warn sells a steel hawse fairlead for use with steel cable.

[91Toyota4x4]

when will the 3s be available? I need one in fl in 2 weeks.

[YeloSub7]

Roller faileads are gay. First time you hit a rock with the failead, the rollers fall out on the trail. Just useless on a serious rig.

If you don't want to upgrade your winch cable, warn sells a steel hawse fairlead for use with steel cable.

Ya no worries, I wanted to get the synthetic rope eventually anyways. This just means that will happen sooner :happypill: Great bumper :thumbs:

You guys should make some sliders with the DOM tubing... "hint" "hint"

Anyways, thanks for all the great products!!!

[mauidogg]

Umm since you guys have front bumpers now, are you planning on making rear bumpers???? I would like to see some if so.

also could we some side shots or somethign of the insalled bumper. I don't like mine to stick out so far, just in case, model1 if you were wondering, I gots me a 85 4runner.

[BlueCamoToy]

can use the hydro milemarker winches?? with these too

[trailhazard]

What Is The Differance Between The Model-1 And Model-2 Bumpers Physicly Speaking?

[John Gabriel]

The design is the same, the body mount tabs are in a different location between the 2 models.

[John Gabriel]

We have not tried using a hydro winch on these bumpers, so we are not sure if they will clear the grille or not.

[trailhazard]

any release date on the model-2 bumpers

[mauidogg]

Can we get some side pics or dimensions on the bumper. I don't want mine to stick out very far, and I was wondering how tall the stinger is in relation to the hood. Any pics or skecth with dimensions would be helpful.

[Chris Dunbar]

Can we get some side pics or dimensions on the bumper. I don't want mine to stick out very far, and I was wondering how tall the stinger is in relation to the hood. Any pics or skecth with dimensions would be helpful.

http://www.trail-gear.com/bbs/0803-0010.jpg
http://www.trail-gear.com/bbs/0803-0007.jpg

[trailhazard]

I Need A Bumper Soon. I Got Pulled Over Again By The Popo Today For No Front Bumper? When Are The Model-2 Going To Be Instock. Not Trying To Be Pushy.

[Chris Dunbar]

I Need A Bumper Soon. I Got Pulled Over Again By The Popo Today For No Front Bumper? When Are The Model-2 Going To Be Instock. Not Trying To Be Pushy.

I think the jig is finished so it should be less than a week......or twelve. :D

[mauidogg]

thanks for the quick reply chris,...it stick out and farther up than I was hoping for but, I may end up getting one any way. Prices of DOM and other materials is super expensive in Hawaii.

you guys ever plan on making one with a slightly lower stinger with a flat middle instead of the kinda rounded hoop in the front, or any modification of the design at all? I know it might not make sense business wise to make many different versions as its easier to mass produce 1 type.

[BlueCamoToy]

does the winch mount come with the front bumper or no?
also can i see some more pics of the 84-85 model one bumpers thanks

[Chris Dunbar]

.....
you guys ever plan on making one with a slightly lower stinger with a flat middle instead of the kinda rounded hoop in the front, or any modification of the design at all? I know it might not make sense business wise to make many different versions as its easier to mass produce 1 type.

Currently, we do not plan to make changes. We have too much time into makign the current parts and jigs.


does the winch mount come with the front bumper or no?
also can i see some more pics of the 84-85 model one bumpers thanks

Yes, the winch plate comes with the front bumper.
It is the basis for the whole bumper, all components integrated into it.

[safari 4runner]

Any release date for the model 4 bumper yet? I have been just a watcher for a while and just been waiting. I really want one of these bumpers. I got the money put back just for when it comes out.

[Chris Dunbar]

Any release date for the model 4 bumper yet? I have been just a watcher for a while and just been waiting. I really want one of these bumpers. I got the money put back just for when it comes out.

We are redesigning the winch plate to clear the radiator core support.
We have working prototypes but we need to find time to fit check them.

[YeloSub7]

We are redesigning the winch plate to clear the radiator core support.
We have working prototypes but we need to find time to fit check them.

What's wrong with they way it was originally designed on John's truck? So you guys have to redesign the winch plate, which means redesigning the the whole bumper all over again?

[TOYOTAPARTS]

The 2nd gen runners radiator support sticks out further than the other models and the winch plate wont fit unless you use spacers. So it sounds like they are making a winch plate just for those models...sweet! keep up the good work guys.:thumbs:

[safari 4runner]

Will we have to wait for the whole bumper to be redesigned or will it just be the winch mount that will have to be redesighned? How about an estimate on time till release of the model 4, weeks or months?

[John Gabriel]

The bumper will be the same it is just the winch plate that is a little different. We are hoping to test fit tomorrow or the beginning of next week.

[Chris Dunbar]

The 2nd gen runners radiator support sticks out further than the other models and the winch plate wont fit unless you use spacers. So it sounds like they are making a winch plate just for those models...sweet! keep up the good work guys.:thumbs:

Exactly! Thanks.

[YeloSub7]

So when are these Model #4 bumpers gonna be ready? I have the cash in hand and am just waiting for the moment to arrive :happypill:

[tattoo]

within 10 day if I am not mistaken

[YeloSub7]

within 10 day if I am not mistaken

WooHoo!!! :happypill:

[tattoo]

Matt is still returning from the nationals, he will be able to give an exact date.

[YeloSub7]

I will be the first to buy one!!!

[YeloSub7]

I have been browsing around at front bumpers for a while now, and most that I have seen the manufacturer recommends some welding or reinforcing of the mounts and/or cross member. So far you guys have not mentioned this for your bumper. I am still anxiously waiting for one from you guys, but I was just curious as to your opinion of this. Thanks!

[Chris Dunbar]

I have been browsing around at front bumpers for a while now, and most that I have seen the manufacturer recommends some welding or reinforcing of the mounts and/or cross member. So far you guys have not mentioned this for your bumper. I am still anxiously waiting for one from you guys, but I was just curious as to your opinion of this. Thanks!

We were able to capture more bolt hole locations, especially on the Model #3 and model #4 bumpers. We do recommend welding the bumper into place if you are going to use it for heavy winching.

[YeloSub7]

Any details/pics on the recommended weld?

[Chris Dunbar]

Any details/pics on the recommended weld?

You can stitch weld around the winch plate where it contacts the frame and front crossmember and around the side tabs (model #3 & 4)

Ideally, we would like a cage incorporated into the bumper so the stress of winching could be dissipated into the cage.

[YeloSub7]

Ideally, we would like a cage incorporated into the bumper so the stress of winching could be dissipated into the cage.

Now that is a perfect reason to build a cage!! :rockon2:

[teamfx3]

Roller faileads are gay. First time you hit a rock with the failead, the rollers fall out on the trail. Just useless on a serious rig.


That's an interesting attitude to have. I've purchased several of TG's products and have been very happy with them, but when I see stupid comments like this posted it puts a sour taste in my mouth. Since when is considered ok to offend the majority of your customers? I've driven a "serious" offroad rig for 10years now with roller fairleads and have never busted any of them, nor have any of my "serious" buddies. WTF dude??

With that being said, I really like the design of bumper but have a question in regards to the 2 different styles. The pic of the 2nd gen 4runner shows an additional tube between the winch plate and the main hoop whereas the 1st gen pic is missing this tube. Would the 2nd gen 4runner bumper work on a 1st gen 4runner with a 2" bodylift to fill the gap??

[Chris Geiger]

Round these parts only the newbies run roller fairleads. Then when they drive up Jack hammer for the first time, and trash their failead and the rollers hit the ground everyone laugh's out loud. I've seen it happen over and over again. Next time you see that guy on the trail he's running a hawse fairlead. The sides are made from such thin material that it only takes a small push to cause them to bend. Once the sides bend then the rollers fall out.

As far as fitment goes, each bumper model is different and is designed to fit a particular year range of trucks. If we could, we would make fewer different models but we can't due to differences in how Toyota built the front of the trucks over the years.

I'd seriously look into removing the body lift and build your truck with as little lift as possible. It's much better to keep the body low and cut out the fenders.

[teamfx3]

Round these parts only the newbies run roller fairleads. Then when they drive up Jack hammer for the first time, and trash their failead and the rollers hit the ground everyone laugh's out loud. I've seen it happen over and over again. Next time you see that guy on the trail he's running a hawse fairlead. The sides are made from such thin material that it only takes a small push to cause them to bend. Once the sides bend then the rollers fall out.

As far as fitment goes, each bumper model is different and is designed to fit a particular year range of trucks. If we could, we would make fewer different models but we can't due to differences in how Toyota built the front of the trucks over the years.

I'd seriously look into removing the body lift and build your truck with as little lift as possible. It's much better to keep the body low and cut out the fenders.


Well once again, your elitist west coast attitude shines through Chris!! Have you ever gone 4wheelin here on east coast where you have mud and trees and roots to deal with along with slimey truck sized granite boulders?? The whole 4wheelin world doesn't revolve around dry desert conditions and slick rock dude, much to the contradiction of your narrow views. I'm sure you're a nice guy in person, but I probably won't be restructuring my entire vehicle set-up which works great for my terrain just because you have a formula that works good 4000miles+ away...

SO if all the bumpers are based off the same winch plate I'd be curious if my original inquiry would be true... The 1st & 2nd gen 4runners are not that different in terms of width. Bolt a 2nd gen bumper onto a 1st gen 4runner and snap a pic, would'ya?? :thanks:

[Chris Dunbar]

....... Would the 2nd gen 4runner bumper work on a 1st gen 4runner with a 2" bodylift to fill the gap??

Yes, but you do not have the 2nd Gen body mount tab so you would just cut it off and use the 1st Gen body mount tab. We could probably send you the 1st Gen tabs also.

[Tallchevy350]

Bolt a 2nd gen bumper onto a 1st gen 4runner and snap a pic, would'ya?? :thanks:
This is what your looking for. The only thing I need to do is weld a bracket so I can use the 2nd gen mount that comes off the body mount.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/Tallchevy350/RockDefense.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/Tallchevy350/tgsidepic.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/Tallchevy350/tg3rdgenon2ndgen.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd137/Tallchevy350/tgbumperbodymount.jpg

[madmanweaver444]

Is Trail Gear going to be making a rear bumper also for 2nd gen pickups?

[Chris Dunbar]

Is Trail Gear going to be making a rear bumper also for 2nd gen pickups?

Yes, but we are still in the R&D stages of the project.
It will be several months before we are ready to sell rear bumpers.

[YeloSub7]

So about that ten days... sorry being annoying here, I just need a front bumper real soon. And I really like yours, so I'm gonn ahold out as long as I can. But it would be nice to have a tentative date, which I know may not be possible. Anyways, just checking to see how things are going with it :thanks:

[Chris Dunbar]

So about that ten days... sorry being annoying here, I just need a front bumper real soon. And I really like yours, so I'm gonn ahold out as long as I can. But it would be nice to have a tentative date, which I know may not be possible. Anyways, just checking to see how things are going with it :thanks:

The bumper was good to go so we are in production with the new winch plates.
I am not sure on an ETA though. :sofa:

[teamfx3]

Yes, but you do not have the 2nd Gen body mount tab so you would just cut it off and use the 1st Gen body mount tab. We could probably send you the 1st Gen tabs also.

Thank you very much for your professional and informative reply without all the pretentous and offensive bull**** I was getting from your co-worker. I plan to order the 2nd Gen bumper asap now, and I will hopefully get to order through you in hopes of getting the necessary brackets I'll need to make it work.

TallChevy350: Those pics are worth a 1000 words!! Thank you VERY much man, much appreciated!


** And for the record, I have the full :flame: classic lift f&r and :flame: 4.7's in my truck and love the whole set up, just so everyone doesn't think I'm a Marlin troll busting your balls...

[YeloSub7]

so are my hopes to have it for the rubicon this weekend all but a dream?

[tattoo]

With out all the bull****.....Yes.

You will not have one for the con this weekend.

[YeloSub7]

LOL!! No worries man... I'll stop asking about it now. I feel like a nagging girlfriend now... haha

[Chris Dunbar]

LOL!! No worries man... I'll stop asking about it now. I feel like a nagging girlfriend now... haha

Post some pics and we will tell you if you look like one too. J/K :haha:

[tattoo]

No worries. I am on the GM to get the product released everyday. Thank you for wanting our product so much you are willing to wait. When we drop it you get 10% off. Just let me know when you are ready to purchase and I will get yours out first.

[YeloSub7]

Thanks man!! I will be leaving in a few weeks for some air force training, so hopefully it'll be out before then. But if not, I will definately be ready for it when I get back. I am ready to order when its ready for me :)

[Chris Dunbar]

Thanks man!! I will be leaving in a few weeks for some air force training, so hopefully it'll be out before then. But if not, I will definately be ready for it when I get back. I am ready to order when its ready for me :)

The TG front model #2 bumpers are now released for sale.

86-88 Pickup
86-89 4Runner

http://www.trail-gear.com/toy-bumper.html

[YeloSub7]

Ooo! One step closer to #4!!! Woot :)

[rcbro]

so the main page for these features an 83 with the bumper, yet theres not one offered. Any ideas as to when the first gens will be available

[Chris Dunbar]

so the main page for these features an 83 with the bumper, yet theres not one offered. Any ideas as to when the first gens will be available

The customer modified the bumper to fit his 1st gen.
We do not have plans for 1st gen truck bumpers at this time.