John Gabriel 4Runner - Trail-Gear On-Line Forum

TGMarketing · #1 12-26-2007, 10:39 AM

John Gabriel our shop manager is building up a 4 door 4Runner. Here is a photo of the Trail-Gear springs...

88toyota · #2 12-26-2007, 11:19 AM

looks good

yotadork83 · #3 12-27-2007, 09:24 AM

could you take some pics of how you guys did the rear spring set up and take some measure ments so my girl friend knows what she is doing when we do hers. right now we have your front sas kit and will be ordering the rear kit asap.

TGMarketing · #4 12-27-2007, 10:04 AM

Sure....

The rear shackle mount should be 6" from the end of the frame to the center of the shackle bolt...

The front hangers should be 16.5" from the front of the factory crossmember to the center of the spring pin....

Once we have this runner finished I plan to write up some install notes on the process.

UKMyers · #5 12-29-2007, 01:14 AM

Can't wait to see some good directions on swapping a 2nd Gen 4Runner to leaves. I have been asked for my dimensions 3 separate times from guys doing the same swap. This is something you guys need to have on your site!

87runnerVortec · #6 01-21-2008, 12:29 PM

That thing flexes like crazy! Can you give the details:
- Springs (front and rear)
- Body Lift?
- Tire Size?

I need to get more flex out of my 87 SAS'd runner, it has pretty stiff leafs, not sure what they are.

88toyota · #7 01-21-2008, 02:41 PM

you guys get anything else done to the 4runner?

84_Yota · #8 01-21-2008, 10:44 PM

what a piece

John Gabriel · #9 01-22-2008, 08:24 AM

I have the 5 inch Heavy Duty springs in the front with 6 inch shackles and the 5 inch springs in the rear with 6 inch shackles. In the picture I have 36 13.50 tires on it on a 15x10 rim.

87runnerVortec · #10 01-22-2008, 11:19 AM

No body lift? Does that sit pretty level with the HD springs in the front, and the lower springrate in the rear?

John Gabriel · #11 01-22-2008, 04:31 PM

I am in the middle of leveling it out right now. The 6inch shackles should be going on the rear tonight and i might have to move the front mount of the rear leafs but it should sit level when im done. Its pretty close right now.

87runnerVortec · #12 01-22-2008, 05:25 PM

Well looks good, hope to see the pictures when you're done with that.

John Gabriel · #13 01-22-2008, 08:13 PM

Well i have the 6 inch shackles in the rear and it still sags a little in the rear, I might mess with the shackle angle a little bit, the locations were all test locations for the mounts. I will let you know how it goes.

hotwheels · #14 01-22-2008, 08:52 PM

lets see some more pics of the shortbus please!

kstateyota · #15 01-25-2008, 10:49 AM

Any other pics?

John Gabriel · #16 01-25-2008, 01:07 PM

I will try to get some more pics this weekend

hotwheels · #17 01-28-2008, 04:18 PM

lets see some new pics of the shortbus

kstateyota · #18 02-01-2008, 09:39 PM

pics?

John Gabriel · #19 02-02-2008, 06:31 PM

I finally took some more pics of the 4-runner today. I have been sick all this week so i haven't had a chance to work on it until today. I welded up the motor mounts and put the shock hoops and front shocks on. I also made a rear shock hoop. To get the 4 runner level i had to move some mounts around and play with the springs a little bit too. In the rear i ended up moving the frame mount for the leafs forward an inch to get a better shackle angle and to also clear the fenders when the vehicle is flexed out. I still have 6'' shackles all around with 5'' springs in the rear and 5'' HD spring in the front but in the front i removed the bottom 2 leafs and it now sits level. I will get some pics of the new location of the rear mount soon. I am hoping this week to get the rear drive line made and do a few more little things like attach brake lines and adjust the timing. Next weekend i am hoping to get the rock sliders welded on. If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

hotwheels · #20 02-02-2008, 09:30 PM

lookin good cant wait to see it when it is all done. keeps us posted on the with more picks. I have a shortbus on 37s and I love it.

87runnerVortec · #21 02-04-2008, 05:19 PM

Looks good. I am interested in seeing more pics of the flex when you get them.

locktup · #22 02-05-2008, 11:53 AM

Lookin good.

Jason

MattMorty · #23 02-06-2008, 12:06 PM

What do you think the biggest tire you will be able to fit is? Im doing the same SAS on my 90 runner and i am hoping to clear 38s. Whats your opinion?

hotwheels · #24 02-16-2008, 01:56 PM

let see some new pics.

John Gabriel · #25 02-17-2008, 06:48 PM

Played on the rocks a little bit on saturday then headed up to bald to play in the snow for a few hours.

John Gabriel · #26 02-29-2008, 11:47 AM

We will be taking the 4-runner to the TG Rock ranch this weekend for a photo shoot of the new front and rear bumper designs for that generation. Pics will be up Monday hopefully.

Jafa · #27 02-29-2008, 01:49 PM

Get Chris to show you how to post the pics in the thread, rather than as attachments

TGMarketing · #28 03-01-2008, 03:09 PM

Here is the front bumper...

Rear bumper...

88toyota · #29 03-01-2008, 04:56 PM

nice,

bruzer · #30 03-03-2008, 09:17 AM

Like the front bumper.

Looks good.

trailhazard · #31 03-03-2008, 04:01 PM

can we see a side view please!

TGMarketing · #32 03-03-2008, 04:15 PM

trailhazard · #33 03-03-2008, 04:23 PM

I want one when will they be ready to order and how much aprox.

TGMarketing · #34 03-03-2008, 04:31 PM

We are gearing up now for full production. In house production jigs are just about done. Product release is about two weeks away for both the 84-88 and 89-95 models. Complete front bumper price is $299 inlcuding winch mount, stinger, and front receiver tubing.

Still working on the rear bumper models.

91Toyota4x4 · #35 04-07-2008, 02:51 PM

When will the 89-95 front bumpers be done? I want.

84_Yota · #36 04-07-2008, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Geiger

....Product release is about two weeks away for both the 84-88 and 89-95 models....

91Toyota4x4 · #37 04-07-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 84_Yota

He posted that over a month ago

trailhazard · #38 04-07-2008, 03:36 PM

HOPEFULLY SOON!!!!!!!!!!1

Doc Hollywood · #39 04-10-2008, 07:37 AM

Chris,

The front bumper looks great! Will it be possible to mount a 8274 winch on that bumper?

I am looking for a front bumper now and I have an 8274 winch contemplating on a bumper but if I can't bolt it up I will have tohave one custom made

John Gabriel · #40 04-10-2008, 10:01 AM

The 8274 winch has the same warn bolt pattern, you will probably have to trim the grill for it to fit due to the integrated solenoid unlike the winch on my 4-Runner.

gittinit · #41 04-10-2008, 12:29 PM

The 8274 warn winch otherwise know as an upright dosent have integrated soleniod. They look like this and the solenoid clamps to the motor. They are big and bulky, but they are the strongest, and fastest winch warn has ever made imo.

Wheelingnoob · #42 04-10-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trailhazard

HOPEFULLY SOON!!!!!!!!!!1

x2

subliminaltrips · #43 04-10-2008, 06:08 PM

swift kick in the ass.....

91Toyota4x4 · #44 04-29-2008, 09:26 PM

Ok for real I want a bumper and I want it NOW!!!

YeloSub7 · #45 04-30-2008, 02:13 AM

Ya I definitely want one of those front bumpers! When are they gonna be available? Do you have a better idea yet?

jtaco1 · #46 04-30-2008, 05:59 AM

Same here on the bumper, I could make one, but would rather save the time to play with the kids and buy from you guys

91Toyota4x4 · #47 04-30-2008, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaco1

Same here on the bumper, I could make one, but would rather save the time to play with the kids and buy from you guys

For real. I have a tubing bender and for the cost of steel and the fact that this bumper is just about identical to the one I was going to build... I'll just buy it and save the time and hassle of building it.